Comments on: The Numbers Game http://dailyuprising.com/blog/daily-dissent/numbers-game/ Join the Conservative Counter-Revolution! Thu, 04 Mar 2010 00:20:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Terrilyn Culpepper http://dailyuprising.com/blog/daily-dissent/numbers-game/comment-page-1/#comment-6334 Terrilyn Culpepper Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:35:35 +0000 http://www.dailyuprising.com/?p=994#comment-6334 Yes this is great article, looking forward for update. Yes this is great article, looking forward for update.

]]> By: jws http://dailyuprising.com/blog/daily-dissent/numbers-game/comment-page-1/#comment-1241 jws Sun, 13 Sep 2009 03:11:49 +0000 http://www.dailyuprising.com/?p=994#comment-1241 Largo, Florida was held in a venue that holds 700 (published in their advertising) Gasoline Alley! I was there from 1-3. When I arrived at 1, it was wall-to wall in the entire place and parking was impossible. The flow in the door did not stop. I cannot imagine that it was less than 700 and probably with those who were coming and going, probably many more. I was also at July 4 gathering outside Perkins Restaurant in Clearwater and the newspaper reported 100 and were not even there! There were 20 under the underpass and 30-40 under the tree for shade most of the time. I can personally estimate that there had to be between 400-500 that day and the crowds packing the three lanes headed to and from the beach were highly supportive. Not a single news station, camera or reporter was seen by anyone, which seemed very odd. All I could think of then was media controlled by government. Why would they not even show up? I aw at least 8-10 police cars monitoring to make sure we did not get into the streets. Why would there have been that many for 100 people? Sad commentary to obviously have the press run by the government! Largo, Florida was held in a venue that holds 700 (published in their advertising) Gasoline Alley! I was there from 1-3. When I arrived at 1, it was wall-to wall in the entire place and parking was impossible. The flow in the door did not stop. I cannot imagine that it was less than 700 and probably with those who were coming and going, probably many more. I was also at July 4 gathering outside Perkins Restaurant in Clearwater and the newspaper reported 100 and were not even there! There were 20 under the underpass and 30-40 under the tree for shade most of the time. I can personally estimate that there had to be between 400-500 that day and the crowds packing the three lanes headed to and from the beach were highly supportive. Not a single news station, camera or reporter was seen by anyone, which seemed very odd. All I could think of then was media controlled by government. Why would they not even show up? I aw at least 8-10 police cars monitoring to make sure we did not get into the streets. Why would there have been that many for 100 people? Sad commentary to obviously have the press run by the government!

]]> By: bcl http://dailyuprising.com/blog/daily-dissent/numbers-game/comment-page-1/#comment-40 bcl Wed, 29 Apr 2009 00:48:59 +0000 http://www.dailyuprising.com/?p=994#comment-40 Just thought this might interest some here: http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2009/04/27/the-myth-of-the-15000/ Just thought this might interest some here: http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2009/04/27/the-myth-of-the-15000/

]]> By: StephC http://dailyuprising.com/blog/daily-dissent/numbers-game/comment-page-1/#comment-39 StephC Sun, 19 Apr 2009 22:05:44 +0000 http://www.dailyuprising.com/?p=994#comment-39 Anybody who says they were small and didn't mean much wasn't there. It was the first time I've ever been to a protest for anything. Old, fat, and dumpy looking me, :-) It was awesome at the Nashville protest, not just for the numbers but for the way it went down. Somebody at the mic was talking about state legislators coming out to join us, somebody started booing at that point but then somebody else cut him off and started a chant "USA!" which everybody started chanting. We had prayer, then sang the national anthem. The only politician who seemd to be the least bit welcome was Marsha Blackburn. The people are tired. In 2006, Republicans were voted out for being spendthrifts and Democrats were running as conservatives only to hit the beltway to become lapdogs for Pelosi. Obama ran as a blank slate but only after he won did the slate get put in a closet and his real agenda was visible. This protest was about as multi-partisan as it gets. Let the media and others try to minimalize this. Obama is scared. When he takes time out from playing kissy kissy with Chavez to give a very short sound byte on having a plan to help small businesses and entrepeneurs when there's never been anything said about it before you know some people are scared. Anybody who says they were small and didn’t mean much wasn’t there. It was the first time I’ve ever been to a protest for anything. Old, fat, and dumpy looking me, :-)

It was awesome at the Nashville protest, not just for the numbers but for the way it went down. Somebody at the mic was talking about state legislators coming out to join us, somebody started booing at that point but then somebody else cut him off and started a chant “USA!” which everybody started chanting. We had prayer, then sang the national anthem. The only politician who seemd to be the least bit welcome was Marsha Blackburn.

The people are tired. In 2006, Republicans were voted out for being spendthrifts and Democrats were running as conservatives only to hit the beltway to become lapdogs for Pelosi. Obama ran as a blank slate but only after he won did the slate get put in a closet and his real agenda was visible. This protest was about as multi-partisan as it gets.

Let the media and others try to minimalize this. Obama is scared. When he takes time out from playing kissy kissy with Chavez to give a very short sound byte on having a plan to help small businesses and entrepeneurs when there’s never been anything said about it before you know some people are scared.

]]> By: ms http://dailyuprising.com/blog/daily-dissent/numbers-game/comment-page-1/#comment-38 ms Sat, 18 Apr 2009 00:22:04 +0000 http://www.dailyuprising.com/?p=994#comment-38 Dude, nobody believes the teaparty is a real grassroots movement. In fact, most of us are suspicious of just a small number of organizations behind it. It's the same ole standard group, riling up the nuts. Plus, all it takes is more wacky conspiracy theory videos to put it to shame. Like the anti-intellectualism that is rampant in the group. WTF?? Why be anti-intellectual. What's wrong with understanding world facts. If reality has a bias to the left, why argue with everything about it? Where were you before? Where was the teaparty before? You know why it matters? Because it could have actually done something. Now its just another wedge for people. And at a bad time when racial tensions are going to be aflame. Dude, nobody believes the teaparty is a real grassroots movement. In fact, most of us are suspicious of just a small number of organizations behind it. It’s the same ole standard group, riling up the nuts. Plus, all it takes is more wacky conspiracy theory videos to put it to shame. Like the anti-intellectualism that is rampant in the group. WTF?? Why be anti-intellectual. What’s wrong with understanding world facts. If reality has a bias to the left, why argue with everything about it?

Where were you before? Where was the teaparty before? You know why it matters? Because it could have actually done something. Now its just another wedge for people. And at a bad time when racial tensions are going to be aflame.

]]> By: Drachemorder http://dailyuprising.com/blog/daily-dissent/numbers-game/comment-page-1/#comment-37 Drachemorder Fri, 17 Apr 2009 19:19:22 +0000 http://www.dailyuprising.com/?p=994#comment-37 Hey guys, I've got a set of pictures from the Jackson, MS party you might like to see. I estimate 3000-4000 there, though the "official" tally said 2500 I think. http://brandonbutler.christiangaming.org/?p=44 My favorite is the little kid with the "Obama broke my piggy bank" sign. Gives me hope for our young folks, ya know? Hey guys, I’ve got a set of pictures from the Jackson, MS party you might like to see. I estimate 3000-4000 there, though the “official” tally said 2500 I think.

http://brandonbutler.christiangaming.org/?p=44

My favorite is the little kid with the “Obama broke my piggy bank” sign. Gives me hope for our young folks, ya know?

]]> By: bcl http://dailyuprising.com/blog/daily-dissent/numbers-game/comment-page-1/#comment-62 bcl Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:31:46 +0000 http://www.dailyuprising.com/?p=994#comment-62 Just curious: Have you ever been to a Libertarian Party gathering? They have been holding tax day protests every April 15th for years. I grew up in Ann Arbor MI and they held their parties while I was growing up (and I am getting to be older than old). Not really a new phenomenon. That the tea party meme was attached to this a couple of months ago does not invalidate the protest's history. I admit, I am not all that clear on what the tea party meme meant (I understand Libertarianism pretty well). Should the government be smaller? Should our warriors be brought home? Is deficit spending only okay when there are Republican majorities? I am just wandering around the map. There were other signs at the rallies, some hateful, racist signs, but I am hoping that they were not the main message. In any case, nice job trying to gather all the attendance figures in one spot. One nice thing about having a centrally located protest is that counting is easier; participating, probably not easier. Just curious: Have you ever been to a Libertarian Party gathering? They have been holding tax day protests every April 15th for years. I grew up in Ann Arbor MI and they held their parties while I was growing up (and I am getting to be older than old). Not really a new phenomenon.

That the tea party meme was attached to this a couple of months ago does not invalidate the protest’s history.

I admit, I am not all that clear on what the tea party meme meant (I understand Libertarianism pretty well). Should the government be smaller? Should our warriors be brought home? Is deficit spending only okay when there are Republican majorities? I am just wandering around the map. There were other signs at the rallies, some hateful, racist signs, but I am hoping that they were not the main message.

In any case, nice job trying to gather all the attendance figures in one spot. One nice thing about having a centrally located protest is that counting is easier; participating, probably not easier.

]]> By: Brandon Martin http://dailyuprising.com/blog/daily-dissent/numbers-game/comment-page-1/#comment-61 Brandon Martin Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:09:41 +0000 http://www.dailyuprising.com/?p=994#comment-61 bcl: Thanks for the comment. I think one difference between the tea party movement and the other recent protest movements you mention is the age of the organizations involved. The tea partiers really began organizing a few weeks ago. When we go to tea parties, the vast majority of people and sometimes the organizers themselves have never publicly protested anything before. The million man march and the anti-war movement were the result of many of the same left-wing protest groups who've been organizing and marching for decades. I mean, regardless of how you think they compare, after just a few weeks, we are talking about the tea party movement protests as being comparable to the Million Man March. I think that's phenomenal. bcl: Thanks for the comment. I think one difference between the tea party movement and the other recent protest movements you mention is the age of the organizations involved. The tea partiers really began organizing a few weeks ago. When we go to tea parties, the vast majority of people and sometimes the organizers themselves have never publicly protested anything before.

The million man march and the anti-war movement were the result of many of the same left-wing protest groups who’ve been organizing and marching for decades. I mean, regardless of how you think they compare, after just a few weeks, we are talking about the tea party movement protests as being comparable to the Million Man March. I think that’s phenomenal.

]]> By: bcl http://dailyuprising.com/blog/daily-dissent/numbers-game/comment-page-1/#comment-60 bcl Fri, 17 Apr 2009 16:50:36 +0000 http://www.dailyuprising.com/?p=994#comment-60 Original Boston Tea Party: Pre-party meeting, 16 DEC 1773 - ~7000 Party goers - ~100 (estimates vary and there were three ships attacked) Population of Boston: ~17000 Population of the colonies (1770): ~2148100 I live in the real world. I was one who argued against the counting of shadows as people during the MillionManMarch. You have to admit, though, that getting 200000+ people to travel to one spot to work together to have their grievance heard is quite an achievement. You also have to admit that there were certainly more people out protesting the war in 2003 and in favor of immigration reform a couple of years ago. Doesn't mean such a movement isn't important to the attendees and that it can't serve as a rallying point for some. Just that the numbers game doesn't show this movement as particularly strong at the moment. Sources: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party (I know, lame source) http://www.publicbookshelf.com/public_html/The_Great_Republic_By_the_Master_Historians_Vol_II/colonialb_fe.html http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004979.html Original Boston Tea Party:
Pre-party meeting, 16 DEC 1773 – ~7000
Party goers – ~100 (estimates vary and there were three ships attacked)
Population of Boston: ~17000
Population of the colonies (1770): ~2148100

I live in the real world. I was one who argued against the counting of shadows as people during the MillionManMarch. You have to admit, though, that getting 200000+ people to travel to one spot to work together to have their grievance heard is quite an achievement. You also have to admit that there were certainly more people out protesting the war in 2003 and in favor of immigration reform a couple of years ago.

Doesn’t mean such a movement isn’t important to the attendees and that it can’t serve as a rallying point for some. Just that the numbers game doesn’t show this movement as particularly strong at the moment.

Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party (I know, lame source)
http://www.publicbookshelf.com/public_html/The_Great_Republic_By_the_Master_Historians_Vol_II/colonialb_fe.html
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004979.html

]]> By: Steve Henderson http://dailyuprising.com/blog/daily-dissent/numbers-game/comment-page-1/#comment-59 Steve Henderson Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:12:01 +0000 http://www.dailyuprising.com/?p=994#comment-59 100 people Belleville, MI. 100 people Belleville, MI.

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